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steven lightfoot's avatar

Excellent work. Its is amazing to see how captured these professional scientific societies are. 'Gender Affirming Care' is a just a re-run of the lobotomy story.

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Leslie MacMillan's avatar

Good job!

I wonder if the observation that 95-98% of children started on puberty blockers will go on to cross-sex hormones without ever being given a chance to experience normal puberty could be chased down. What happened to the 3-5% of children who stopped PBs and *didn't* start hormones? Did their puberty resume, albeit late and stunted with bone loss and decreased IQ?

Or is this 95-98% figure just another oft-repeated statistic that is just someone's gut sense of what happens? There are no desistors to study because no one bothers to follow the kids who stop PBs and get lost to follow-up. A lot of that in this racket.

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Daniel_G's avatar

WPATH and SOC8 should join hands with the new organization called SOCPATH which accurately describes them

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Ms Johnson's avatar

People often act like "puberty blockers" are a type of drug. I consider the term "puberty blocking" marketing. It's a way to steer others away from looking at the drug or class of drugs itself. There's no drug labeled so people won't look up the side effects. Parents who're struggling with children likely won't.

Instead of looking at the hormone Gonadotropin-releasing hormone and the fact that there are drugs that stop this naturally occurring hormone as a drug class called gonadotropin-releasing hormone agonists, drugs like Lupron and Triptorelin, people are caught up in the idea of "pausing/blocking" puberty and pathologizing a natural and healthy human development.

Puberty is not pathology.

How this drug or class of drugs has been sold for various things and the side effects on adults is disturbing. We're looking at children because they're being sold a dream in a very obvious manner but adults have been sold a dream as well. Women submitting to surrogacy for money, women suffering endometriosis, girl children suffering precocious puberty (which is idiopathic, meaning they don't know what causes it) and adult men who're told they're "suppressing testosterone" as adults without being told what that means are all taking this class of drug. Men who're sex offenders have been forced to take this drug and have fought to be allowed to not be forced to take it:

https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onca/doc/2015/2015onca602/2015onca602.html?resultId=7ce526b1c1054c55827eb15afa785b78&searchId=2024-10-02T18:29:35:919/7ba096634e8b4d85845fc5b198dd27a5&searchUrlHash=AAAAAQAIUiBMdXByb24AAAAAAQ

"November 15, 2010: Mr. Starnaman discontinued Lupron. “He is aware of the risks and benefits.” “He would like to stop Lupron in order to restore his interest in children.”

So grown men are given this drug as a punishment. They've turned around and sold it to children.

For children and particularly girls, if the gonadotropin-releasing hormone agonists makes any of girls blind? That's not reversable. That's not puberty. That's use of a drug that leads to vision loss. It's harm sold as health.

https://www.fda.gov/media/159663/download

2022 American Academy of Pediatrics:

"Six cases were identified that supported a plausible association between GnRH agonist use and pseudotumor cerebri. All six cases were reported in birth-assigned females ages 5 to 12 years. Five were undergoing treatment for central precocious puberty and one for transgender care. The onset of pseudotumor cerebri symptoms ranged from three to 240 days after GnRH agonist initiation."

Precious puberty or puberty blocking, one is idiopathic which could be a way of some parent's trying to prevent their little girls from entering puberty early in a way that is not harmful but early, although the ages range, and the other is simply a sales tactic. There have already been more than one generation that's been harmed. We know this impacts bone health in both men and women from those who've already been through this as children.

The castrati who were physically castrated were known for their weak bones and girls who were given drugs for "precocious" puberty have been shown to suffer also from weak bones.

Even Canadian researchers studying the class of gonadotropin-releasing hormone agonists such as Lupron understand that there's bone and joint issues:

https://karger.com/hrp/article-abstract/80/1/64/166303/Occurrence-of-Slipped-Capital-Femoral-Epiphysis-in?redirectedFrom=PDF

"Puberty" "Blocking" is marketing and it's unethical at that.

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jp's avatar

Excellent. Thank you!

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